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SGDK Version 2 => Help, Errors, FAQ => Topic started by: xenofex on 2007-12-08, 05:52:30 AM

Title: Error Message TSGDK2
Post by: xenofex on 2007-12-08, 05:52:30 AM
hi guys,


i get this error message everytime i try to run the scrolling game development kit 2.


this is my system specifications:

macbook
2,16 ghz intel core 2 duo
intel gma 950 graphics card
1 gb 667 mhz ddr2 sdram
windows xp with service pack 2.

Here is the error i get
(http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/668/afbeelding1go4.png)

Title: Re: Error Message TSGDK2
Post by: durnurd on 2007-12-08, 12:20:27 PM
Well, the game has never been tested on a virtual machine, so errors are not surprising.  If you can get the DirectX information, it would probably help diagnose the problem.

In the virtual machine, goto Start->Run and type "dxdiag" and click OK.  Find the "DirectX Version" label and let us know what version you have.  Also, click on the "Display" tab at the top and let us know what's in the "Device" and "Driver" boxes.  Taking a screenshot would probably be easiest.
Title: Re: Error Message TSGDK2
Post by: xenofex on 2007-12-08, 02:00:54 PM
hi,


i have included 2 new screenshots for you to see. i find it strange that it says i have 16mb instead of 64.

(http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9203/afbeelding1nv4.png)

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3795/afbeelding2wh9.png)
Title: Re: Error Message TSGDK2
Post by: SmartBoy16 on 2007-12-08, 08:59:40 PM
why is DX in Dutch? ???
Title: Re: Error Message TSGDK2
Post by: durnurd on 2007-12-08, 11:25:34 PM
The virtual machine does not emulate the hardware you have on your system, it emulates its own specific set of hardware that it knows how to work with, and that includes a rather low-end video card apparently.  There may be a way to change that, but I have never worked with VMWare, so I don't know.

You may be able to play the game full-screen, but this is not helpful if you want to actually edit games, since this error is the same when editing maps and playing games.  If you want to try playing full-screen anyway, right-click on the project (top-level) object in the tree, select Edit, then change Windowed to false, and see if it runs.

Edit: After a cursory search on the web, it looks like VMWare doesn't support current versions DirectX generally, so there's little hope there.
Title: Re: Error Message TSGDK2
Post by: xenofex on 2007-12-09, 06:49:06 AM
ok. i am going to buy another laptop tommorow then. lets see if it runs tsgdk2.

but since these days vista gets preinstalled. is it worth it? or should i install windows xp media center instead?
Title: Re: Error Message TSGDK2
Post by: bluemonkmn on 2007-12-09, 11:04:56 AM
As far as SGDK2 compatibility, I think (hope!) that the choice of Vista or XP doesn't make a difference.  I'm reasonably certain that there are Vista users that are working OK with SGDK2.  And I use XP myself, so I know that works.  I know it doesn't work on Virtual PC on the same machine, though.
Title: Re: Error Message TSGDK2
Post by: Jam0864 on 2007-12-09, 02:47:14 PM
vista is fine as long as you know how to configure the bits you don't like.
UAC=eww D:
Title: Re: Error Message TSGDK2
Post by: durnurd on 2007-12-09, 10:13:13 PM
You'll need to install .NET 1.1 if you get Vista, since it comes with 2.0 and not 1.1, which is what the current version is built on.
Title: Re: Error Message TSGDK2
Post by: xenofex on 2007-12-10, 07:07:39 PM
why is TSGDK II better then the first one anyway?
Title: Re: Error Message TSGDK2
Post by: bluemonkmn on 2007-12-11, 07:13:48 AM
There are so many reasons, it's hard to list them all, but the documentation does list a number of improvements in version 2:
http://sgdk2.sourceforge.net/Documentation/Introduction.html#WhatsNew (http://sgdk2.sourceforge.net/Documentation/Introduction.html#WhatsNew)
Title: Re: Error Message TSGDK2
Post by: Jam0864 on 2007-12-11, 08:46:22 PM
basicly imo, much much more powerful. :D
Title: Re: Error Message TSGDK2
Post by: xenofex on 2007-12-12, 06:26:25 AM
i knew i had a computer left here in this house (Pentium III)

so i am thinking of upgrading its graphics card instead of buying another laptop (saves me alot of room too)

Here are the specifications of the computer:


Pentium 3 866 mhz
512 MB Ram
Windows XP
Graphics Card onboard (doesnt work with TSGDK 2)


I have been looking around and i can see a geforce 5200 PCI (sorry only pci will fit into the pc) for 15 bucks. or i can buy a brand new graphics card which will cost 40 bucks and i will get a geforce 6200!. Only problem is that it is out of stock at my local hardware dealer.

What do you guys think? Are these specs enough?
Title: Re: Error Message TSGDK2
Post by: bluemonkmn on 2007-12-12, 06:38:23 AM
512 MB of RAM is what I run with, and I don't think the 866 MHz will be a problem unless you plan on creating lots of small tiles (SGDK2 runs rather slowly when drawing lots of small tiles in the frameset editor or any other frame browser because that part doesn't use DirectX).  The video card you get just needs to be up to par with DirectX 9 drivers, and I still don't have a complete list of which video cards work and which don't.  But the memory and processor in your system should be adequate.  When you find out how it performs, let us know so others can know what to expect out of SGDK2 performance on lower end systems.
Title: Re: Error Message TSGDK2
Post by: Tanja on 2007-12-12, 09:14:18 AM
the geforce 6200 is in the list for the supported video cards. and the 5200 FX also.
Title: Re: Error Message TSGDK2
Post by: xenofex on 2007-12-16, 11:52:21 AM
i know that the Geforce 5200 FX costs about 10 euros now if you can find it.

I have heard that the Radeon 7000/TD is the best pci graphics card. all i know is that its pretty cheap these days (35 euro new)