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Title: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: v6v on 2009-06-08, 06:28:17 PM
Hey I just got a Dsi and, well, I'm posting on it now.

I don't have a computer anymore so my one project I still have on a CD I can't complete/submit.

I use this as internet now.

So is there any way of a version compatible with the Dsi as a playabe application on a SD card?(sgdk2)

bluemonkmn?

durund?

Help me you incredibly smart people!
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: bluemonkmn on 2009-06-09, 05:11:21 AM
Not likely:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/566381/nintendo-dsi-sdk-getting-started (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/566381/nintendo-dsi-sdk-getting-started)
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: Jam0864 on 2009-06-09, 11:53:28 PM
Yeh it wouldn't be too hard if they used an illegal method that ran only on flashed firmware, but alas, most people haven't flashed their firmware.
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: SmartBoy16 on 2009-06-11, 08:01:02 PM
here's what you could do... go to a college and get a degree for video game design. then work for a company that makes DSiWare games and design a game that makes games
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: durnurd on 2009-06-11, 08:44:57 PM
Yeh it wouldn't be too hard if they used an illegal method that ran only on flashed firmware, but alas, most people haven't flashed their firmware.

I don't know if you can say it wouldn't be too hard.  There's still the whole "DS doesn't support C# .NET" issue to get over.
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: Jam0864 on 2009-06-11, 09:17:55 PM
I haven't looked into the DS much, but I have Ubuntu installed on my PSP, it runs any ubuntu-compatible app that doesn't require too much horsepower... Gonna look into wine in the future.
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: bluemonkmn on 2009-06-12, 05:11:07 AM
Ubuntu on your PSP?  :surprise: Have you tried running any SGDK2 Linux project on it?
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: Tanja on 2009-06-12, 05:21:34 AM
now THAT would be nice
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: Jam0864 on 2009-06-12, 06:35:30 AM
Never did, just assumed it wouldn't work since I couldn't get graphics acceleration working. (and most of the buttons don't work)

Send one over and I'll give it a shot.
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: durnurd on 2009-06-12, 07:25:31 AM
You'll need to make sure Mono is installed on your PSP before you have any hope of running any SGDK2 programs.
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: Jam0864 on 2009-06-12, 05:04:09 PM
When I went to the download page for mono and searched for a ubuntu page, I found "Mono is available in all Ubuntu releases, and installed by default."
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: durnurd on 2009-06-12, 05:20:55 PM
Oh, that's right.  I was remembering that I had to install Mono Develop when I was working on getting TVSGDK2 running at the very beginning.
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: Tanja on 2009-06-13, 07:03:25 AM
more trials to get SGDK2 running on a DSi?
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: v6v on 2009-06-18, 11:02:36 AM
I hate to bash nintendo here, but they suck at game development compared to sony. They can do so much more but their games don't use their full potential.
Nintendo is an acorn;
Sony, a baby tree. I shoulda got a PSP.
But some folks at gbatemp.com are trying to make a homebrew channel based off of some kid named Yasu's hack. I would love to find a way to get the things I need to use SGDK2 on the DSi, mates, but nintendo warns me in their DSi book and internet user agreement that if I do such, the DSi will brick.
(Which would be suitable for porting such items, the SD slot or the Game slot?(Acekard))
Do you know, bluemonkmn? I think I asked the same thing about my broken and cheap DS lite...
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: Jam0864 on 2009-06-18, 10:08:29 PM
The DS/DSi is not powerful enough to run Windows or Linux, or any mainstream operating system for that matter.

This chip allows homebrew on a DS/DSi
http://www.r4ultra.com/ (not sure of it's legality)
The programs have to be made specifically for the DS though, there's no way of porting existing programs at this time.
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: v6v on 2009-06-19, 12:31:03 AM
Thanks, Jammin'man.
The Acekard I've heard is better(?)
IDK, I'm broke anyhow...
Jimmies, no one told me this... one kid in my class told me that the DSi had 6 times the wallydrop of the DS.
Oh, well, I'll check the PSPgo when it arrives...(not for now, mate)
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: bluemonkmn on 2009-06-19, 05:26:57 AM
Ok, I must not be up on the lingo.  What the heck is wallydrop?  :-[
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: Jam0864 on 2009-06-19, 07:20:07 AM
Yes, what is a wallydrop?  :-[


The PSPgo is the same as the regular PSP but smaller with slide-out controls and internal memory. (performance-wise, exactly the same)

I don't know about the acekard, I have only used r4 myself. Found no problems with it so far.


Just overclocked my PSP's processor to 333MHz. (stock 222MHz) Much snappier now. :)  The processor was originally designed for 333MHz, but was downclocked because of very short battery life, so I should be fine as long as I don't go any higher. I don't use my PSP much anymore, I just use it to muck around with now so it's not a big deal if it explodes or something. :)
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: v6v on 2009-06-19, 08:19:52 AM
In Korallian, it means anything.
I talked this way for my hot half- Japanese girlfriend. Jimmies is another way of saying jimminy cricket, lad.
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: v6v on 2009-06-23, 07:10:44 PM
 :crazy:Reviving this, is there any way to make sgdk2 games in javascript? i found out of three dsi sites,
dsicade, dsitube and dsipaint-
all javascript special feature sites
for dsi [also hullbreach online lite]
any way for me to put a sgdk2 game javascript on a web page?
I want to contribute some games to their site if possible--
forgive me if this question is idiotic, im getting desperate for dsi internet games.
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: Jam0864 on 2009-06-24, 12:57:20 AM
I think durnurd got it working in an activex control in a webpage, can't remember if it ended up functional or not. And I think that was probably when SGDK2 was directx too.
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: bluemonkmn on 2009-06-24, 04:54:03 AM
SGDK2 is .NET-based.  Everything SGDK2 does is highly dependent on .NET.  Eliminate the .NET framework, and there's almost nothing left of SGDK2.  So the only way SGDK2 projects will run (without totally rewriting a project from the ground up except for the graphics) is on a platform that supports .NET.  I think durnurd created a .NET control that ran in a web page.  Of course that only works on platforms that can run such controls.
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: SmartBoy16 on 2009-08-29, 05:32:28 PM
have you ever tried warioware.com
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: bluemonkmn on 2009-08-30, 07:06:30 AM
No, and the site seems to be unavailable at the moment.
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: SmartBoy16 on 2009-08-30, 10:00:20 AM
how about warioworld.com (typo)
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: tprime on 2009-08-30, 04:02:05 PM
That site is working.
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: bluemonkmn on 2009-08-31, 06:15:31 AM
Looks like you're not allowed to develop Wii / DS games from home.
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: Jam0864 on 2009-08-31, 06:39:38 AM
Looks like you're not allowed to develop Wii / DS games from home.
Quality control I guess... too bad they both have a lot of the worst games out of any console anyway... :S
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: tprime on 2009-08-31, 10:19:37 AM
I think the Mario games are pretty good.  ;)
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: Jam0864 on 2009-08-31, 07:48:45 PM
I don't like the latest ones at all. I liked the early two dimensional mario platformers on the NES and SNES, but after they started cashing in on it too much with Mario Golf, Mario Tennis, Mario Kart, Mario Professional Banana Eating Contest, Mario this, mario that, etc... ruined it.
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: durnurd on 2009-09-01, 04:47:27 PM
Waitwaitwait.  Mario Golf, Mario Tennis, whatever, dis them as much as you want, but Mario Kart!?  It's a staple that's been around since the SNES days, and frankly one of my favorite racing games!
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: bluemonkmn on 2009-09-01, 05:12:33 PM
Mario Kart may be slightly less gimmicky (using Mario's image to promote the game rather than the gameplay itself) than some of the other Mario games, but I still think it's gimmicky.  Mario and company are story characters with jumping and running moves.  They're not sporty characters designed for racing and playing tennis.  I say, get your own characters, you racers and sports game players :).  Mario is for platform gaming and possibly some Mario RPG and Paper Mario action.  Too bad I can't claim any authority on the subject having never owned any Nintendo system.

But c'mon, Mario's a plumber for Pete's sake... a plumber in a race car?  Why not a dinosaur in a race car... oh wait :)
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: SmartBoy16 on 2009-09-01, 05:40:25 PM
But c'mon, Mario's a plumber for Pete's sake... a plumber in a race car?  Why not a dinosaur in a race car... oh wait :)

:laugh:

actually, one of my "game ideas" i came up with a while ago was a slug racing game. :) who knows, if I ever get into game design in the future, I might start on it (i know, i am a big dreamer)
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: Jam0864 on 2009-09-02, 12:20:42 AM
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Waitwaitwait.  Mario Golf, Mario Tennis, whatever, dis them as much as you want, but Mario Kart!?  It's a staple that's been around since the SNES days, and frankly one of my favorite racing games!
Mario kart's on snes and n64 were good, wasn't big on the gamecube or wii versions.
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: SmartBoy16 on 2009-09-02, 06:22:15 AM
actually, if you've ever played the DS version, I thought that was amazing! before i actually saw MKDS, i was expecting MK64 graphics. the graphics on the DS are ao great, you could easily compare them to th GC version.
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: durnurd on 2009-09-02, 07:54:13 AM
But c'mon, Mario's a plumber for Pete's sake... a plumber in a race car?  Why not a dinosaur in a race car... oh wait :)

Mario's a plumber for Pete's sake... a plumber rescuing a princess? ;)
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: tprime on 2009-09-02, 09:55:14 AM
I don't like the latest ones at all. I liked the early two dimensional Mario platformers on the NES and SNES, but after they started cashing in on it too much with Mario Golf, Mario Tennis, Mario Kart, Mario Professional Banana Eating Contest, Mario this, Mario that, etc... ruined it.


Were you serious about Mario Professional Banana Eating Contest?
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: Jam0864 on 2009-09-03, 12:35:55 AM
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Were you serious about Mario Professional Banana Eating Contest?
I'm sure there will be one soon at thsi rate.
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: SmartBoy16 on 2009-09-03, 01:02:41 AM
i think the mext mario games, Galaxy 2 and New Mario Bros Wii, seem like good games
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: Rubix Cube on 2009-09-04, 03:43:06 PM
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too bad they both have a lot of the worst games out of any console anyway... :S
I can think of plenty of good games for it. What were you hoping for it to have?

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But c'mon, Mario's a plumber for Pete's sake... a plumber in a race car?
Since when have games needed to be logical?  :laugh:
But really, Mario Kart DS is a high-quality racing game that people still play years later after a console sequel was released. It's good.
It was also based on the N64 version of the game, which was one of the best.
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: tprime on 2009-09-05, 08:40:16 PM
i think the mext mario games, Galaxy 2 and New Mario Bros Wii, seem like good games

I'm looking foward to New Super Mario Bros Wii. Although I don't own the console. :(
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: v6v on 2009-09-06, 03:20:12 PM
wasnt mario also a wrestling referee, a doctor, a basktball player, a professional fighter, and an amusement park owner? wow... poor sonic cant compete....
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: tprime on 2009-09-06, 05:30:39 PM
wasnt mario also a wrestling referee, a doctor, a basktball player, a professional fighter, and an amusement park owner? wow... poor sonic cant compete....

An amusement park owner? What game? Don't forget both Sonic and Mario competed in the Olympics. And now in the Winter Olympics as well.
Title: Re: Sgdk on Dsi
Post by: SmartBoy16 on 2009-09-06, 05:48:57 PM
search youtube for mario vs sonic commercials, they're funny. (wow we're getting off topic) but in the end, everyone here has different opinions on how sucessful the Nintendo franchise is.